GATE is suspended indefinitely
Question:
So.. are you saying non-instrument rated pilots are prohibited from crossing the border? or that they must file DVFR plans?
DVFR doesn’t apply really, there’s no ADIZ there.
Response:
Yes. All 170Bs are 720 channel. I think there is/was a kit to make them 760 channels. The older 170As were 360 channel.
And the only the B is legal to transmit on these days. The others are not legal and can not be made legal.
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I stand corrected. Good to see they brought that back, at least at some airports. Hopefully they’ll remove the restriction for all airports.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I asked AOPA about the CANPASS program being suspended… —- No, it has been reinstated for those who hold permits. 5% of those who crossed the border actually filled out the forms, paid the fees and got a permit. The rest of us were casual users so we go through customs. See http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/customs/individuals/canpass/canpass-e.html —- Juan It’s been pretty well known. It’s on the AOPA and customs websites. Also, the old CANPASS system was suspended. You have to go to an AOE in Canada. I don’t think there is any requirement to be on an IFR flight plan. jerry FYI… For those who like international travel to Canada, I just discovered that the US GATE (General Aviation Telephonic Entry) program for passing through US customs has been suspended since 9/11/2001. When entering the US from Canada, you must now go directly to a Port of Entry and through customs by a real live inspector. In addition, you must be on an IFR flight plan when you enter the US from Canada. I hadn’t seen this publicized, so if you plan on flying in from Canada, plan on flying IFR. EoE
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I asked AOPA about the CANPASS program being suspended… —- No, it has been reinstated for those who hold permits. 5% of those who crossed the border actually filled out the forms, paid the fees and got a permit. The rest of us were casual users so we go through customs. See http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/customs/individuals/canpass/canpass-e.html —- Juan
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It’s been pretty well known. It’s on the AOPA and customs websites. Also, the old CANPASS system was suspended. You have to go to an AOE in Canada. I don’t think there is any requirement to be on an IFR flight plan. jerry FYI… For those who like international travel to Canada, I just discovered that the US GATE (General Aviation Telephonic Entry) program for passing through US customs has been suspended since 9/11/2001. When entering the US from Canada, you must now go directly to a Port of Entry and through customs by a real live inspector. In addition, you must be on an IFR flight plan when you enter the US from Canada. I hadn’t seen this publicized, so if you plan on flying in from Canada, plan on flying IFR. EoE
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The customs web site doesn’t say anything about an IFR flight plan. Somebody must have had a brain fart. Suspension of Alternate Inspection Programs: GATE The General Aviation Telephonic Entry (GATE) has been suspended until further notice. All general aviation aircraft must request and receive clearance at a staffed Customs facility. Some facilities have changed their hours and days of operation. Pilots must verify availability of service prior to arrival. Please check with the arrival port to ascertain hours of operation and prior notification requirements. Contact numbers may be found in the Guide for Private Flyers.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you call the U.S Customs office for the Gate program at 1-800-98CLEAR (1-800-982-5327), the recording clearly states that pilots arriving must file an IFR flight plan. However, as other posters have mentioned, I don’t think the FAA cares on flights from Canada to the U.S. Imagine that, one govt. hand (FAA) not knowing what the other (U.S. Customs) is doing? Pete FYI… In addition, you must be on an IFR flight plan when you enter the US from Canada. Negative, VFR is just fine, going either way. — Peter D. Brown http://home.gci.net/~pdb/
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The reply from AOPA when I queried them about this… —- No, you can fly VFR to/from Canada and I have done so in December ‘01. This was after 9/11 when GATE was suspended. I don’t have a "real good" answer about the future of the GATE program. We’re trying to get in to see the appropriate folks in the US Customs Service and have placed a number of calls to their office. However, while this may be high on our list, it’s lower on the Customs Service list of things to do. Much of this is being driven by Mr. Ridge, Head of Homeland Security and we continue to let the federal officials know how this is impacting GA in a negative way. Hopefully, USCS will see Canada making some inroads and follow our suggestions. These developments are somewhat ironic since it was just last year (pre-9/11) that Customs made GATE permanent. —- Juan
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you call the U.S Customs office for the Gate program at 1-800-98CLEAR (1-800-982-5327), the recording clearly states that pilots arriving must file an IFR flight plan. However, as other posters have mentioned, I don’t think the FAA cares on flights from Canada to the U.S. Imagine that, one govt. hand (FAA) not knowing what the other (U.S. Customs) is doing? Pete FYI… In addition, you must be on an IFR flight plan when you enter the US from Canada. Negative, VFR is just fine, going either way. — Peter D. Brown http://home.gci.net/~pdb/
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FYI… In addition, you must be on an IFR flight plan when you enter the US from Canada.
Negative, VFR is just fine, going either way.
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Huh? Since when? There’s no restriction on VFR flights across the north or south borders…
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – FYI… For those who like international travel to Canada, I just discovered that the US GATE (General Aviation Telephonic Entry) program for passing through US customs has been suspended since 9/11/2001. When entering the US from Canada, you must now go directly to a Port of Entry and through customs by a real live inspector. In addition, you must be on an IFR flight plan when you enter the US from Canada. I hadn’t seen this publicized, so if you plan on flying in from Canada, plan on flying IFR. EoE
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It’s been pretty well known. It’s on the AOPA and customs websites. Also, the old CANPASS system was suspended. You have to go to an AOE in Canada. I don’t think there is any requirement to be on an IFR flight plan. jerry
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – FYI… For those who like international travel to Canada, I just discovered that the US GATE (General Aviation Telephonic Entry) program for passing through US customs has been suspended since 9/11/2001. When entering the US from Canada, you must now go directly to a Port of Entry and through customs by a real live inspector. In addition, you must be on an IFR flight plan when you enter the US from Canada. I hadn’t seen this publicized, so if you plan on flying in from Canada, plan on flying IFR. EoE
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If you call the U.S Customs office for the Gate program at 1-800-98CLEAR (1-800-982-5327), the recording clearly states that pilots arriving must file an IFR flight plan. However, as other posters have mentioned, I don’t think the FAA cares on flights from Canada to the U.S. Imagine that, one govt. hand (FAA) not knowing what the other (U.S. Customs) is doing? Pete FYI… In addition, you must be on an IFR flight plan when you enter the US from Canada. Negative, VFR is just fine, going either way.
– Peter D. Brown http://home.gci.net/~pdb/
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Does a 720/760 channel KX170B exist? Can a 360 channel 170B be converted to 720 channels? If so, by who? MikeM
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Yes. All 170Bs are 720 channel. I think there is/was a kit to make them 760 channels. The older 170As were 360 channel. Best regards, Steve Robertson N4732J 1967 Musketeer Super III – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does a 720/760 channel KX170B exist? Can a 360 channel 170B be converted to 720 channels? If so, by who? MikeM
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FYI… For those who like international travel to Canada, I just discovered that the US GATE (General Aviation Telephonic Entry) program for passing through US customs has been suspended since 9/11/2001. When entering the US from Canada, you must now go directly to a Port of Entry and through customs by a real live inspector. In addition, you must be on an IFR flight plan when you enter the US from Canada. I hadn’t seen this publicized, so if you plan on flying in from Canada, plan on flying IFR. EoE
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So.. are you saying non-instrument rated pilots are prohibited from crossing the border? or that they must file DVFR plans? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – FYI… For those who like international travel to Canada, I just discovered that the US GATE (General Aviation Telephonic Entry) program for passing through US customs has been suspended since 9/11/2001. When entering the US from Canada, you must now go directly to a Port of Entry and through customs by a real live inspector. In addition, you must be on an IFR flight plan when you enter the US from Canada. I hadn’t seen this publicized, so if you plan on flying in from Canada, plan on flying IFR. EoE
