Pre-WWI aircraft
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I humbly suggest two worthwhile books for people who doubt what HF says here, or those interested in hearing about the subject in any detail. "Flying the Old Planes" by Frank Tallman, and "Airborne" by Neil Williams.Both contain really great stories and experiences flying pre-WW1 and WW1 airplanes. Mr. Williams’ antics ferrying the 1913 Eastbourne Monoplane (IIRC), and receiving a parking ticket for planting a dead stick Sopwith Pup in someone’s yard are nothing short of delightful. Even if you are not particularly a pre-WW1 fan, Neil Williams’ book will make you cheer out loud when you read it. Also, Richard Bach’s "A Gift of Wings" should be in EVERY pilot’s library, bar none, no exceptions. As a matter of fact, if I ever hear about any of you who do not possess this book, I will post herein a photograph of MY corpulent naked ass flying somebody’s gyro, a far worse and offensive sight than the last fellow. Bill (Steel, Aluminum, Nuts, and Bolts) Berle – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been interested in Pre-WWI aircraft since I was 4 (40 years ago). I have spent many hours talking to the old hands like Lee About and Dale Crites (spelling?). I was wondering if anyone knows a good source for drawings for these early models. Interested in the 1911-1913 Bellanca. I’ve seen pictures of a replica flying around out there somewhere. Any help? Rolland The Bellanca replica was built by a student in the Aviation Technology program at Southern Illinois University at Carbondale. It was an interesting, if marginal airplane. As I recall, after the student left SIU, the airplane was involved in a serious accident and that was the end of it. Pre WWI aircraft are marginal flying machines at best. Even WWI aircraft can be seriously lacking in controllability and stability. Before WWI it was sufficient to just get off the ground. Controllability and safety were clearly secondary considerations, rarely considered! — HighFlyer Highflight Aviation Services
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The thought of anyone (male) flying a gyro naked brings to mind such a mental picture that I could make a fortune selling the idea to Stephen King for his next movie. My mind has been seriously burned, and warped from this horrible thought. I wonder if it is good enough to get me on of them guvment checks??? Best Regards, J.D. Guinn
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I’ve been interested in Pre-WWI aircraft since I was 4 (40 years ago). I have spent many hours talking to the old hands like Lee About and Dale Crites (spelling?). I was wondering if anyone knows a good source for drawings for these early models. Interested in the 1911-1913 Bellanca. I’ve seen pictures of a replica flying around out there somewhere. Any help? Rolland
The Bellanca replica was built by a student in the Aviation Technology program at Southern Illinois University at Carbondale. It was an interesting, if marginal airplane. As I recall, after the student left SIU, the airplane was involved in a serious accident and that was the end of it. Pre WWI aircraft are marginal flying machines at best. Even WWI aircraft can be seriously lacking in controllability and stability. Before WWI it was sufficient to just get off the ground. Controllability and safety were clearly secondary considerations, rarely considered! — HighFlyer Highflight Aviation Services
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I’ve been interested in Pre-WWI aircraft since I was 4 (40 years ago). I have spent many hours talking to the old hands like Lee About and Dale Crites (spelling?). I was wondering if anyone knows a good source for drawings for these early models. Interested in the 1911-1913 Bellanca. I’ve seen pictures of a replica flying around out there somewhere. Any help?
Plenty of pre-WWI dwgs. PLUS the experiences of just about anyone who has EVER built replicas of them can be found on a regular basis through Leo Opdycke’s WWI AERO magazine. He’s been publishing it for over thirty years and freely lists all the people, museums etc. involved in such projects along with long detailed and illustrated articles about many of them. He also has a 53 page MASTER MATERIALS listings of dwgs and manuals and costs and addresses of copies of most known WWI and earlier dwgs.(for only $12 for that list whcih took over 30 years of extensive World-wide research!) He routinely offers special packages of any ten back issues (current issues are some 146 pages each with the only minimal advertising beitn that of dwgs and parts suppliers for that period aircraft and some related publications-four-times per year) Contact him at WWI AERO; 15 Crescent Rd.; Poughkeepsie, NY 12601. If you wish to call him about specific research material in specific back issues on specific aeroplanes, the phone is 914-473-3679. I get some 80-100 international aviation publications per month for years now. If I could only get one, THIS is the subscription I would keep. The best of the best! Cheers, Joe Gertler
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Check out the Juptner Series (as it is usually known). Officially, the title is "U.S. Civil Aircraft Series" by Joseph Juptner. I’m not sure how many volumes there were, but I have the first six. They show pre-war aircraft that I had never heard of before. Rick
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been interested in Pre-WWI aircraft since I was 4 (40 years ago). I have spent many hours talking to the old hands like Lee About and Dale Crites (spelling?). I was wondering if anyone knows a good source for drawings for these early models. Interested in the 1911-1913 Bellanca. I’ve seen pictures of a replica flying around out there somewhere. Any help? Rolland
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I’ve been interested in Pre-WWI aircraft since I was 4 (40 years ago). I have spent many hours talking to the old hands like Lee About and Dale Crites (spelling?). I was wondering if anyone knows a good source for drawings for these early models. Interested in the 1911-1913 Bellanca. I’ve seen pictures of a replica flying around out there somewhere. Any help? Rolland
