rec.aviation OSHKOSH 1996 update

Question:

I have heard that there is an air conditioning unit that is not driven directly by the engine. There is an electric motor that drives the compressor. Does anyone know about this and if so please post and e-mail me the information. This will be greatly appreciated. Calvin

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I have heard that there is an air conditioning unit that is not driven directly by the engine. There is an electric motor that drives the compressor. Does anyone know about this and if so please post and e-mail me the information. This will be greatly appreciated.

Enviro systems makes one for certified aircraft. Big Bucks!! It also eats lots of power. about 50 amps at 28 volts. I heard that the plymoth neon also uses one but I am not sure. It may even have been a different car but it was a small one. Regardless it will take lots of power to run it. Mark

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I’ve put a bunch of information up on the web for rec.aviators who may be interested in attending the EAA Convention and Fly-in at Oshkosh, Wisconsin 8/1 through 8/7. Key pages are: Information: http://reality.sgi.com/geoff/osh_info.html Registration: http://reality.sgi.com/geoff/osh_reg.html Who’s coming: http://reality.sgi.com/geoff/osh_list.html For those who don’t have web access, an ASCII version of the information page is attached. This information will be continuously updated through the beginning of the Oshkosh airshow. –Geoff Experimental Aircraft Association Convention and Fly-In Oshkosh, Wisconsin Rec.aviation Information 1996 Edition Geoff Peck These pages are developed by individual EAA members and do not represent official EAA policy or opinion. Well, folks, it’s about a month away from the 44th annual EAA Fly-In and Convention which will, as usual, be held at Wittman Field, Oshkosh, Wisconsin. This year, the convention starts on Thursday, August 1st and ends Wednesday, August 7th. The EAA has an official web site which contains a great deal of information on the convention: http://www.eaa.org/oshkosh/index.html Over the past years, we’ve found that over 100 rec.aviators typically come to Oshkosh and meet one another face-to-face (horrors! non-electronic communication! ). In order to help rec.aviators have a better idea of who’s coming from this diverse group, we’ve had a sign-up system in place for the last N years. This year, an automated web-based signup is available at http://reality.sgi.com/geoff/osh_reg.html If at all possible, please use this form to register. If you are reading will send you a "fill-in-the-blanks" form which you can then e-mail back to me. If you’d like to see who’s already registered, see http://reality.sgi.com/geoff/osh_list.html What’s Oshkosh? Oshkosh is loads of fun for everyone and is a truly unique gathering – over 12,000 airplanes will be "in residence" at Oshkosh, including (literally) thousands of antique, classic, homebuilt and warbird aircraft. In 1995, more than 830,000 people and 12,000 airplanes – including a record 2,719 showplanes – attended the event. Each afternoon, there’s a formal airshow, with top-notch aerobatics, warbirds, parachuting, wing-walking and so on, but throughout the day, interesting aircraft are busy flying by! When the airshow isn’t occupying the skies, there are still plenty of aircraft, from ultralights to B747-400’s to blimps to keep your eyes fixed in the sky. If watching all the airplanes isn’t enough to keep you busy (and it is!), there are *10* or more parallel technical sessions throughout most of the convention, totalling nearly 500 forums, seminars and workshops. There are five warehouse-sized buildings with aviation shops and manufacturers of all types hawking their wares. There’s the EAA Adventure Museum, with its ever-expanding collection. There are aircraft displays by most of the aircraft manufacturers (those that are left – sigh!) and kitmakers. There’s the "fly market", with its vast array of aviation bargains and curios. ("You want a grommet for a what? A 1943 GazeboLifter Mark IV? Turbocharged? Oh, no problem, we have a bag of those grommets over there…") Rec.aviation activities Tentative information; subject to change. * Meet each day at the northwest corner of the control tower: o between 12:15 noon and 12:30 p.m. o after the conclusion of the day’s airshow (T +0:15 to T +0:30) The lunch-time meeting has been by far the most popular, although we have had great success in spontaneously gathering 20-30 people for dinner! **NEW** Meet each day between 8:30 and 8:45 a.m. at the picnic tables in front of the Steakhouse Cafe, which is where you can buy wonderful home-made doughnuts (see below); the Steakhouse Cafe is located near the NASA building and the South Exhibits building. * There will be a rec.aviation "sign-in" list at the message center booth. The message center folks know about this folder; just ask for it. Please do not leave it unattended, and please do not give away the handouts to non-rec.aviators, as only a limited number of them are printed. When you arrive at OSH please obtain the list and write down where you are tied down (or camping, or what motel you are staying at, etc.) next to your name. This is incredibly useful if another netter wants to find you – he/she can stop by your plane but only if you’ve written down where it is! If you arrive before the "official" list does, please start a temporary list. When the "official" list arrives, there will also be a supply of printed rosters of expected rec.aviation attendees garnered from the on-line registration process. Even if you don’t fly in (or you’ve flown into an airport other than OSH), please do sign in so others can tell whether you’re around. * Ham-radio frequency: 2 meter, 145.750 simplex, call rec.aviation. (One of these years we’re going to want to set up our own repeater…) Since 1991, we’ve had a growing group dinner at a restaurant in downtown Oshkosh on Friday or Saturday night. Several years ago, over sixty netters were there! Coordinating this event is rather complex, and this year we may try some experiments like bar-b-queues and/or planned dinners on more than one night. Please fill out the rec.aviation registration form to let the organizers (conspirators?) know what your preferences are; we’ll keep everyone up-to-date on what’s being set up. **NEW** We will be organizing a rec.aviation bar-b-queue on Sunday, August 3rd. Tentative plans call for having a relatively informal gathering at a to-be-selected rec.aviator’s aircraft tiedown in the North 40. We expect to have several small charcoal grilles and to provide food to cook (so not everyone has to run across the road to go to the grocery store), with reimbursement from those who attend. You can expect non-scheduled food-related get-togethers, both at lunch and dinner, and perhaps even breakfast, throughout the airshow and probably even before it starts! General Information Flying in Flying in is actually relatively easy. Make sure you have a copy of the FAA NOTAM for Oshkosh, which describes the VFR arrival procedures. Do what they say, listen up (don’t talk!) on the radio, and you’ll find that it’s no harder than landing at Reid-Hillview on a busy Saturday. While it is possible to fly in IFR, I personally cannot recommend it. Several netters have successfully filed IFR to a nearby airport/VOR (Sheboygan if arriving from the east), then canceling IFR and making a VFR intercept for Fisk/Ripon/etc, as published for VFR arrivals. If you want to park at OSH, be aware that tiedown space is limited, and when it fills up, you will be directed to an outlying airport (Fond du Lac or Appleton), from which shuttle bus service should be available. Sometimes these airports fill up too… In general, if you arrive before noon on Tuesday July 30th, or after noon on Monday August 5th you should be able to park at Oshkosh. Also, note that you must have a tiedown kit; three ropes with big screw-in thyngies is the usual arrangement. You can buy or rent them right at your parking spot but this is relatively expensive. (If you need to get tie-down gear when you arrive, go over to the Fly Market, and you should be able to put together a kit on your own for about $10.) There are several types of aircraft parking available at Oshkosh. Those who get to park in one of the "special" categories (homebuilt, warbird, classic, antique, …) should already know what to do. Otherwise, there are two choices: "camping" spaces and "parking" spaces. The camping spaces are closer to the showers and to the activities on the field, but they cost money; the "parking" spaces are free, and you can camp there, but there’s quite a hike to the showers and there are many fewer port-a-potties… EAA Fees (1996) Existing EAA Members Non EAA Members joining at show EAA Members Adult (19 or older) $13/day $16/day $21/day Flight Line Admission $75/week $83/week $143/week Spouse/Student (14-18) $10/day $16/day $21/day Flight Line Admission $31/week $83/week $143/week Youth (8-13) $7/day $7/day $11/day Flight Line Admission $23/week $39/week $73/week Child (7 and under) Flight Line Admission Free Free Free Aircraft Camping Auto / RV Camping $14/day $14/day not available Day Automobile Parking $3/day $6/day Day Parking (over 20′ long) $5/day $7/day Adult General Admission No Flight Line Access $5/day $5/day $15/day Admission to the flight line is $21/day for non-EAA members, $16/day if you join EAA at the show, and $13/day if you join beforehand. A pass which works throughout the show is $75 for EAA members, $83 if you join EAA at the show, and $143 for non-EAAers. There is no rebate on the week-long admissions if you arrive late or leave early. Lower prices are available for additional family members; kids 7 and under are free. Note that access to the flightline is permitted only for qualified aviation visitors – certificated pilots, members of qualified aviation … read more »

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We now have almost **60** netters registered as coming to Oshkosh! Now’s your last chance to sign in and let others know you’ll be there, so please hurry and do it before Friday 7/26!!! I’ve put a bunch of information up on the web for rec.aviators who may be interested in attending the EAA Convention and Fly-in at Oshkosh, Wisconsin 8/1 through 8/7. Key pages are: Information: http://reality.sgi.com/geoff/osh_info.html Registration: http://reality.sgi.com/geoff/osh_reg.html Who’s coming: http://reality.sgi.com/geoff/osh_list.html For those who don’t have web access, an ASCII version of the information page is attached. This information will be continuously updated through the beginning of the Oshkosh airshow. Please note that the information page is changing almost on a daily basis! –Geoff Experimental Aircraft Association Convention and Fly-In Oshkosh, Wisconsin Rec.aviation Information 1996 Edition Geoff Peck Experimental Aircraft Association Convention and Fly-In Oshkosh, Wisconsin Rec.aviation Information 1996 Edition These pages are developed by individual EAA members and do not represent official EAA policy or opinion. Well, folks, it’s about a month away from the 44th annual EAA Fly-In and Convention which will, as usual, be held at Wittman Field, Oshkosh, Wisconsin. This year, the convention starts on Thursday, August 1st and ends Wednesday, August 7th. The EAA has an official web site which contains a great deal of information on the convention: http://www.eaa.org/oshkosh/index.html An additional and very good source of information about Oshkosh is the Air & Space magazine (of the National Air & Space Museum) web page for Oshkosh: http://www.airspacemag.com/EAA Over the past years, we’ve found that over 100 rec.aviators typically come to Oshkosh and meet one another face-to-face (horrors! non-electronic communication! ). In order to help rec.aviators have a better idea of who’s coming from this diverse group, we’ve had a sign-up system in place for the last N years. This year, an automated web-based signup is available at http://reality.sgi.com/geoff/osh_reg.html If at all possible, please use this form to register. If you are reading send you a "fill-in-the-blanks" form which you can then e-mail back to me. If you’d like to see who’s already registered, see http://reality.sgi.com/geoff/osh_list.html What’s Oshkosh? Oshkosh is loads of fun for everyone and is a truly unique gathering – over 12,000 airplanes will be "in residence" at Oshkosh, including (literally) thousands of antique, classic, homebuilt and warbird aircraft. In 1995, more than 830,000 people and 12,000 airplanes – including a record 2,719 showplanes – attended the event. Each afternoon, there’s a formal airshow, with top-notch aerobatics, warbirds, parachuting, wing-walking and so on, but throughout the day, interesting aircraft are busy flying by! When the airshow isn’t occupying the skies, there are still plenty of aircraft, from ultralights to B747-400’s to blimps to keep your eyes fixed in the sky. If watching all the airplanes isn’t enough to keep you busy (and it is!), there are *10* or more parallel technical sessions throughout most of the convention, totalling nearly 500 forums, seminars and workshops. There are five warehouse-sized buildings with aviation shops and manufacturers of all types hawking their wares. There’s the EAA Adventure Museum, with its ever-expanding collection. There are aircraft displays by most of the aircraft manufacturers (those that are left – sigh!) and kitmakers. There’s the "fly market", with its vast array of aviation bargains and curios. ("You want a grommet for a what? A 1943 GazeboLifter Mark IV? Turbocharged? Oh, no problem, we have a bag of those grommets over there…" However, if you find someone who has a supply of transparent aluminum, please let me know – I’ve been looking for some for years…) Rec.aviation activities Tentative information; subject to change. * Meet each day at the northwest corner of the control tower: o between 12:15 and 12:30 p.m. o after the conclusion of the day’s airshow (T +0:15 to T +0:30) The lunch-time meeting has been by far the most popular, although we have had great success in spontaneously gathering 20-30 people for dinner! **NEW** Meet each day between 8:30 and 8:45 a.m. at the picnic tables in front of the Steakhouse Cafe, which is where you can buy wonderful home-made doughnuts (see below); the Steakhouse Cafe is located near the NASA building and the South Exhibits building. * There will be a rec.aviation "sign-in" list at the message center booth. The message center folks know about this folder; just ask for it. Please do not leave it unattended, and please do not give away the handouts to non-rec.aviators, as only a limited number of them are printed. When you get the list, write down where you are tied down (or camping, or what motel you are staying at, etc.) next to your name. This is incredibly useful if another netter wants to find you – he/she can stop by your plane but only if you’ve written down where it is! If you arrive before the "official" list does, please start a temporary list. When the "official" list arrives, there will also be a supply of printed rosters of expected rec.aviation attendees garnered from the on-line registration process. Even if you don’t fly in (or you’ve flown into an airport other than OSH), please do sign in so others can tell whether you’re around. * Ham-radio frequency: 2 meter, 145.750 simplex, call rec.aviation. Jim repeater on 146.56, PL 107.2. (Anyone up to contributing a duplex repeater one of these years?) Since 1991, we’ve had a growing group dinner at a restaurant in downtown Oshkosh on Friday or Saturday night. Several years ago, over sixty netters were there! Coordinating this event is rather complex, and this year we may try some experiments like bar-b-queues and/or planned dinners on more than one night. Please fill out the rec.aviation registration form to let the organizers (conspirators?) know what your preferences are; we’ll keep everyone up-to-date on what’s being set up. **NEW** We will be organizing a rec.aviation bar-b-queue on Sunday, August 3rd. Tentative plans call for having a relatively informal gathering at a to-be-selected rec.aviator’s aircraft tiedown in the North 40. We expect to have several small charcoal grilles and to provide food to cook (so not everyone has to run across the road to go to the grocery store), with reimbursement from those who attend. You can expect non-scheduled food-related get-togethers, both at lunch and dinner, and perhaps even breakfast, throughout the airshow and probably even before it starts! General Information Flying in Flying in is actually relatively easy. Make sure you have a copy of the FAA NOTAM for Oshkosh, which describes the VFR arrival procedures. Do what they say, listen up (don’t talk!) on the radio, and you’ll find that it’s no harder than landing at Reid-Hillview on a busy Saturday. While it is possible to fly in IFR, I personally cannot recommend it. Several netters have successfully filed IFR to a nearby airport/VOR (Sheboygan if arriving from the east), then canceling IFR and making a VFR intercept for Fisk/Ripon/etc, as published for VFR arrivals. If you want to park at OSH, be aware that tiedown space is limited, and when it fills up, you will be directed to an outlying airport (Fond du Lac or Appleton), from which shuttle bus service should be available. Sometimes these airports fill up too… In general, if you arrive before noon on Wednesday July 31st, or after noon on Monday August 5th you should be able to park at Oshkosh. Also, note that you must have a tiedown kit; three ropes with big screw-in thyngies is the usual arrangement. You can buy or rent them right at your parking spot but this is relatively expensive. (If you need to get tie-down gear when you arrive, go over to the Fly Market, and you should be able to put together a kit on your own for about $10.) There are several types of aircraft parking available at Oshkosh. Those who get to park in one of the "special" categories (homebuilt, warbird, classic, antique, …) should already know what to do. Otherwise, there are two choices: "camping" spaces and "parking" spaces. The camping spaces are closer to the showers and to the activities on the field, but they cost money; the "parking" spaces are free, and you can camp there, but there’s quite a hike to the showers and there are many fewer port-a-potties… If you’re seeking ride-sharing information for Oshkosh 1996, Air & Space magazine (of the National Air & Space Museum) has a web page for this: http://www.airspacemag.com/EAA/RideLink/OSKRidelink.html EAA Fees (1996) Existing EAA Members Non EAA Membersjoining at show EAA Members Adult (19 or older) $13/day $16/day $21/day Flight Line Admission $75/week $83/week $143/week Spouse/Student (14-18) $10/day

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We now have almost **60** netters registered as coming to Oshkosh! Now’s your last chance to sign in and let others know you’ll be there, so please hurry and do it before Friday 7/24!!! I’ve put a bunch of information up on the web for rec.aviators who may be interested in attending the EAA Convention and Fly-in at Oshkosh, Wisconsin 8/1 through 8/7. Key pages are: Information: http://reality.sgi.com/geoff/osh_info.html Registration: http://reality.sgi.com/geoff/osh_reg.html Who’s coming: http://reality.sgi.com/geoff/osh_list.html For those who don’t have web access, an ASCII version of the information page is attached. This information will be continuously updated through the beginning of the Oshkosh airshow. Please note that the information page is changing almost on a daily basis! –Geoff Experimental Aircraft Association Convention and Fly-In Oshkosh, Wisconsin Rec.aviation Information 1996 Edition Geoff Peck Experimental Aircraft Association Convention and Fly-In Oshkosh, Wisconsin Rec.aviation Information 1996 Edition These pages are developed by individual EAA members and do not represent official EAA policy or opinion. Well, folks, it’s about a month away from the 44th annual EAA Fly-In and Convention which will, as usual, be held at Wittman Field, Oshkosh, Wisconsin. This year, the convention starts on Thursday, August 1st and ends Wednesday, August 7th. The EAA has an official web site which contains a great deal of information on the convention: http://www.eaa.org/oshkosh/index.html An additional and very good source of information about Oshkosh is the Air & Space magazine (of the National Air & Space Museum) web page for Oshkosh: http://www.airspacemag.com/EAA Over the past years, we’ve found that over 100 rec.aviators typically come to Oshkosh and meet one another face-to-face (horrors! non-electronic communication! ). In order to help rec.aviators have a better idea of who’s coming from this diverse group, we’ve had a sign-up system in place for the last N years. This year, an automated web-based signup is available at http://reality.sgi.com/geoff/osh_reg.html If at all possible, please use this form to register. If you are reading send you a "fill-in-the-blanks" form which you can then e-mail back to me. If you’d like to see who’s already registered, see http://reality.sgi.com/geoff/osh_list.html What’s Oshkosh? Oshkosh is loads of fun for everyone and is a truly unique gathering – over 12,000 airplanes will be "in residence" at Oshkosh, including (literally) thousands of antique, classic, homebuilt and warbird aircraft. In 1995, more than 830,000 people and 12,000 airplanes – including a record 2,719 showplanes – attended the event. Each afternoon, there’s a formal airshow, with top-notch aerobatics, warbirds, parachuting, wing-walking and so on, but throughout the day, interesting aircraft are busy flying by! When the airshow isn’t occupying the skies, there are still plenty of aircraft, from ultralights to B747-400’s to blimps to keep your eyes fixed in the sky. If watching all the airplanes isn’t enough to keep you busy (and it is!), there are *10* or more parallel technical sessions throughout most of the convention, totalling nearly 500 forums, seminars and workshops. There are five warehouse-sized buildings with aviation shops and manufacturers of all types hawking their wares. There’s the EAA Adventure Museum, with its ever-expanding collection. There are aircraft displays by most of the aircraft manufacturers (those that are left – sigh!) and kitmakers. There’s the "fly market", with its vast array of aviation bargains and curios. ("You want a grommet for a what? A 1943 GazeboLifter Mark IV? Turbocharged? Oh, no problem, we have a bag of those grommets over there…" However, if you find someone who has a supply of transparent aluminum, please let me know – I’ve been looking for some for years…) Rec.aviation activities Tentative information; subject to change. * Meet each day at the northwest corner of the control tower: o between 12:15 and 12:30 p.m. o after the conclusion of the day’s airshow (T +0:15 to T +0:30) The lunch-time meeting has been by far the most popular, although we have had great success in spontaneously gathering 20-30 people for dinner! **NEW** Meet each day between 8:30 and 8:45 a.m. at the picnic tables in front of the Steakhouse Cafe, which is where you can buy wonderful home-made doughnuts (see below); the Steakhouse Cafe is located near the NASA building and the South Exhibits building. * There will be a rec.aviation "sign-in" list at the message center booth. The message center folks know about this folder; just ask for it. Please do not leave it unattended, and please do not give away the handouts to non-rec.aviators, as only a limited number of them are printed. When you get the list, write down where you are tied down (or camping, or what motel you are staying at, etc.) next to your name. This is incredibly useful if another netter wants to find you – he/she can stop by your plane but only if you’ve written down where it is! If you arrive before the "official" list does, please start a temporary list. When the "official" list arrives, there will also be a supply of printed rosters of expected rec.aviation attendees garnered from the on-line registration process. Even if you don’t fly in (or you’ve flown into an airport other than OSH), please do sign in so others can tell whether you’re around. * Ham-radio frequency: 2 meter, 145.750 simplex, call rec.aviation. Jim repeater on 146.56, PL 107.2. (Anyone up to contributing a duplex repeater one of these years?) Since 1991, we’ve had a growing group dinner at a restaurant in downtown Oshkosh on Friday or Saturday night. Several years ago, over sixty netters were there! Coordinating this event is rather complex, and this year we may try some experiments like bar-b-queues and/or planned dinners on more than one night. Please fill out the rec.aviation registration form to let the organizers (conspirators?) know what your preferences are; we’ll keep everyone up-to-date on what’s being set up. **NEW** We will be organizing a rec.aviation bar-b-queue on Sunday, August 3rd. Tentative plans call for having a relatively informal gathering at a to-be-selected rec.aviator’s aircraft tiedown in the North 40. We expect to have several small charcoal grilles and to provide food to cook (so not everyone has to run across the road to go to the grocery store), with reimbursement from those who attend. You can expect non-scheduled food-related get-togethers, both at lunch and dinner, and perhaps even breakfast, throughout the airshow and probably even before it starts! General Information Flying in Flying in is actually relatively easy. Make sure you have a copy of the FAA NOTAM for Oshkosh, which describes the VFR arrival procedures. Do what they say, listen up (don’t talk!) on the radio, and you’ll find that it’s no harder than landing at Reid-Hillview on a busy Saturday. While it is possible to fly in IFR, I personally cannot recommend it. Several netters have successfully filed IFR to a nearby airport/VOR (Sheboygan if arriving from the east), then canceling IFR and making a VFR intercept for Fisk/Ripon/etc, as published for VFR arrivals. If you want to park at OSH, be aware that tiedown space is limited, and when it fills up, you will be directed to an outlying airport (Fond du Lac or Appleton), from which shuttle bus service should be available. Sometimes these airports fill up too… In general, if you arrive before noon on Wednesday July 31st, or after noon on Monday August 5th you should be able to park at Oshkosh. Also, note that you must have a tiedown kit; three ropes with big screw-in thyngies is the usual arrangement. You can buy or rent them right at your parking spot but this is relatively expensive. (If you need to get tie-down gear when you arrive, go over to the Fly Market, and you should be able to put together a kit on your own for about $10.) There are several types of aircraft parking available at Oshkosh. Those who get to park in one of the "special" categories (homebuilt, warbird, classic, antique, …) should already know what to do. Otherwise, there are two choices: "camping" spaces and "parking" spaces. The camping spaces are closer to the showers and to the activities on the field, but they cost money; the "parking" spaces are free, and you can camp there, but there’s quite a hike to the showers and there are many fewer port-a-potties… If you’re seeking ride-sharing information for Oshkosh 1996, Air & Space magazine (of the National Air & Space Museum) has a web page for this: http://www.airspacemag.com/EAA/RideLink/OSKRidelink.html EAA Fees (1996) Existing EAA Members Non EAA Membersjoining at show EAA Members Adult (19 or older) $13/day $16/day $21/day Flight Line Admission $75/week $83/week $143/week Spouse/Student (14-18) $10/day